48 Hours In Las Vegas, With A Toddler
August 16th, 2008-6:34 pm by sub2changeThis week I attended a conference in Las Vegas. Call me crazy, but I recognized that this might be the only opportunity I’ll have to take Kelly somewhere special for a very long time. So she went along, and so did my seventeen month old son. My schedule at the conference was light enough that we were able to do quite a bit of exploring together.
There are a few things we learned about Las Vegas on this trip. Kelly and I are both glad that we had this chance to see the city before planning a real vacation there. I think we would’ve been sorely dissapointed by the Vegas nightlife had we gone there with larger expectations of a relaxing trip. In two days we walked the strip from Mandalay Bay to Treasure Island, which is about three quarters of the whole way. We’ve got blisters on our feet and a whole new perspective on the city. All three of us are completely wiped out!
We stayed in Mandalay Bay at THE hotel. From the airport Madalay Bay looks like it could be the largest hotel on the strip. You’ll never get an appreciation for the scale until you see Vegas for yourself. It takes twenty minutes just to walk from one location inside most of the Las Vegas hotels to any other location within the same hotel. I’m not kidding. One morning I dropped Kelly off at the pool, but she needed to go back to our room to drop off her valuables because there were no lockers. She told me the round trip from the pool to the room took 45 minutes. Of course any trip from point A to point B in Las Vegas takes you through a casino. That’s by design.
We didn’t really experience the legendary Vegas hospitality. I’m pretty sure it’s reserved for the customers who are spending big bucks in the casinos. We also didn’t find the city to be as family friendly as advertised. Vegas may have cleaned up its image, but it hasn’t gone out of its way to welcome children. By the way, did you know there’s only one changing table on the strip? I found it in a mall at the Venetian, and I never saw another one. We saw a few other babies and plenty of small children but I have no idea how those parents were dealing with their families. You can’t do much in Vegas except gamble and eat really expensive food. Kids pretty much rule out either of those things. Even taking in a show is pretty much out of the question with children, unless you’re looking to spend the big bucks. I would’ve liked to see Blueman Group, but wasn’t about to pay over $100 a seat when I can see them in Chicago for half that price. For kid stuff you can do there are the fountains at the Bellagio (free – every 15 minutes at night), the PG-13 rated pirate show and booty dancing at Treasure Island (also free), lions at the MGM Grand (free), a shark reef at Mandalay Bay ($16.95), a dolphin habitat at The Mirage ($16.95?), some malls, a few rides, and a few more indoor attractions that we didn’t have a chance to check out. Did I mention that all the swimming pools close before 8pm or earlier? What do you suppose the casinos want you to do after dark?
I mentioned that we learned a lot on this trip. First of all, I’ve always heard rumors of “the cheap Vegas vacation.” Having been there now I’m not sure where that legend comes from. We did discover that prices dropped dramatically as we traveled north on the strip. At Mandalay Bay the restaurants are fairly upscale, with most of them shamelessly boasting $40 plus entrees. The Red Square is a caviar bar, where you can expect to pay $200 for an ounce of Caviar. Once we passed the Bellagio we started noticing more buffets and meals under $20. We never did find the legendary five dollar buffet anywhere. The Coffee Shop inside Treasure Island treated us very nicely and gave us our money’s worth on each of our $13 entrees, and the twelve dollar fruit plate. I learned a valuable lesson with that meal, though. Smoked salmon and six glasses of lemonade do not sit well when you’ve been in the desert heat for the past four hours. If I’m ever in Las Vegas again I think I’ll make it a point to avoid eating anything uncooked when the temperature outside is above 90 degrees.
Another lesson we learned is that it’s not easy to get around Vegas on foot. Walking through the casinos adds time to any trip and it’s hot outside. Traffic on the street wasn’t terrible this time of year, I would’ve considered driving. There are free trams connecting Mandalay Bay to Luxor and Excalibur, from there you can cross bridges to New York, New York and the MGM Grand. Another free tram runs between Treasure Island and The Mirage. If you walk all the way to the back of the MGM Grand you can hop on a monorail for 5 bucks (15 dollar all day pass). That will get you to almost the far north end of the strip. We entered the monorail coming south from Bally’s, and I didn’t make a mental note of all the other stops. Follow that link and you’ll see that the monorail may be expanded to connect to the airport. I’m all in favor of that! It would be a great way to reach the strip.
The reason I’m writing all of this information about our trip is because of one of the other things we learned in Vegas: nobody knows anything! Ninety nine percent of the people you meet on the strip aren’t from there and they’re just as confused as you are. The people who work on the strip don’t know much outside their little sphere of influence, so you can’t ask anyone how to get anywhere, what’s going on, or what time the show starts. You need to ask the bellman where your luggage is, ask the bartender what’s in a mojito, and ask your waiter for the check. Any other question is pretty much going to get you deferred to someone else twenty minutes away, across the casino.
I think all three of us had a really good time on this trip, but we’ll definately be sans children next time and there will be a much larger entertainment budget. All we were able to do on this trip was eat and see these legendary places for ourselves. In 48 hours, that agenda was plenty! I thought we’d all had enough of the desert by the time we left, but you should’ve seen Cole on the plane. He was hamming it up, introducing himself to the people all the way in the back seats.
UPDATE -Â Some second thoughts after sleeping on this post:
We didn’t venture off the strip, but it looked like prices drop dramatically if you head east or west. So does your ability to travel, though. I looked up room rates at THE hotel. This time of year the rates start at $169 a night. I imagine you could find cheaper along the strip, too. If you’re going for the once in a lifetime trip, budget for a place on the strip. It’ll be worth it not to have to find a way to get around! Otherwise, the Rio and Hard Rock are off the strip and I saw shuttles to both. Perhaps they’re the place to stay on a budget? I also saw Best Westerns and discount motels nestled in among the big casinos.
Vegas doesn’t photograph well, by the way. In the day the sun is too bright, at night and indoors it’s dark and the lighting is spotty. It’s also hard to get a good angle on anything you might want to shoot. The sights are huge and packed in tight. Practice at home with your camera if pictures are a priority! Find the best way to shoot neon at night, bright lighting in front of a dark backround, dimly lit rooms, and through glass. We found that video was often the best way to get a good shot of everything.
After reading through some of the fliers we brought home I can see that the family friendly activities could be on the part of the strip we didn’t manage to get to. Still, it’s not Disneyland and it’ll cost you to ride the rides.
Restaurants and shops close surprisingly early. In a city with night life like Vegas’, you’d think there would be more 24 hour food options. After 10 or 11pm, your food choices are very limited and you might need to eat fast food in one of the food courts.
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August 17th, 2008 at 2:36 am
Found your post on Google blog search for Las Vegas. Some thoughts:
1. Las Vegas was inexpensive and “family friendly” in the 90′s but that ended earlier this decade. MGM Grand even ripped out their amusement park for condos. Unfortunately, comedians and others continue to perpetuate the myth.
2. This is also the case (somewhat) for the “cheap Las Vegas vacation” but only to a point. You aren’t going to get a room at THE Hotel for $69 a night, but you can (mid-week) get rooms at plenty of other decent hotel on the Las Vegas Strip for a bargain right now.
Side Note: As you found out, THE Hotel can’t exclude kids, but they really cater to adults.
3. Inexpensive dining can still be found. The Sahara’s evening buffet is $7.99 with players card (takes 5 minutes to sign up and you don’t have to play). Various food courts (O’Sheas, Monte Carlo, MGM and more) have the kind of food chains you’ll find anywhere else (McDonald’s, subway, pasta/pizza places) and are kid friendly.
Downtown Las Vegas offers plenty of dining value in every range from coffee shops to fine dining, but isn’t remotely kid friendly.
There has been no $5 buffet in town for a number of years, although adjusted for inflation, The Sahara is $5 in year 1998 money!
4. Las Vegas Blvd. has less crowded side street running along The Strip (Frank Sinatra to the west and Koval to the east). And… valet parking is free at hotels. This will help if you rent a car next time.
5. You are right that “nobody knows” anything! Most of the people who work even on The Strip (and this includes cab drivers) just want to go home and away from it all at the end of the day. Because the area is so vast and there is so much to do and see, do the homework you can before you leave.
6. Yes… do come back without the kids and with a little bit more “me time” budget and you will absolutely experience the hospitality Las Vegas is known for! The amazing experience (and service) of a celeb chef restaurant, seeing a show that otherwise doesn’t tour (or in the case of Phantom of the Opera has a specially built auditormium that can’t be matched by a touring version).
Hope this helps!
Ted Newkirk
Managing Editor
http://www.accessvegas.com
PS Sorry if any typos. It is late.
August 17th, 2008 at 7:26 am
I forgot to mention the food courts. They’re one of the few places open to eat after 10pm.
We also enjoyed Lombardi’s in the Miracle Mile Shops. They were reasonably priced and VERY friendly.
August 17th, 2008 at 10:50 am
Just to add a couple of thoughts to your post from someone who has been to Vegas more times than he’d like:
1) The only place Vegas is family friendly is in the commercials.
2) The strip doesn’t need to be inexpensive, so it isn’t. You can find some (way) off strip locations that still offer some deals, but do your homework first. Vegas ain’t the grandest town to go randomly searching in.
3) This goes along with what Ted said, but generally you’ll find less expensive food at the older properties which run from about where you stopped on the strip north.
4) If you have a question, ask a cab driver. It’ll cost ya a tip, but you’ll get an answer. I disagree with Ted in that regard. I’ve found cab drivers very informative.
5) An all day pass on the monorail can be worth it, but only if you are going to be going to certain places.
6) As for snapshot photography, you are right, it is tough to photograph. You really need to know how to use the manual settings on your camera to compensate for the extremes in lighting. And if your camera will take it, an ND or polarizing filter will really help during the day.
And I have a side story that relates to how big the strip is. I went for a trade show once and I roomed with a guy who had never been there before. He’d get up a 5 am and exercise, so I left for the show the first morning without him. We were staying at the Imperial Palace and the show was at Mandalay Bay. 45 minutes into the show, he still wasn’t there and we started to get concerned. Eventually he showed up, dripping wet and red faced. As it turned out, he stepped out of the IP, looked up the strip and thought, “Ah hell, that ain’t too far. Why wait for a cab when I can walk it.” He learned the hard way that everything looks a lot closer than it really is.